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Reply with quote  #17 
but do they shoot on 42 power whats the drill
Reply with quote  #18 
I have never turned mine down from 42 except to help find my target when I am getting set up. On the NXS question, I think most F-Class shooters prefer the BR model because of the 1/8 min. clicks.
Reply with quote  #19 
thanks what ret at 1000 yards does one eighth click make a difference
Reply with quote  #20 
I like the 1/8 clicks. I have a 8-32 benchrest with a NP-R1, and a 12-42 benchrest with a NP-R2. I'm not sure if these are the best reticles for 1000 yard target shooting but they work for me. I shoot the 12-42 all the time and only once did I have to back it down off of 42, and still did not go below 32.I swap this scope over to other rifles, in one day I've had it on as many as 4. Keep good notes and it works for me. Sold other scopes I had on those rifle and bought this N.F. Completely happy.
Reply with quote  #21 
As David mentioned, the most common scope at a big F-Class meet is the NF 12-42x56mm. When spending my own money for strictly my own use, I go for the BR series. The 1/8 clicks are nice, but IMO not strictly necessary - 99% of the time I'm holding off somewhere in the scoring rings anyway. The front adjustable objective is easier for me to eliminate parallax with as you are making roughly the same adjustment over a larger rotation, so you get a little finer control.

The biggest 'advantage' of the NXS for me, is that the mental math is easier. ~3 revolutions @ 10 moa ea to 1k, vs. 5 @ 6 moa each. Since I normally grab a fist-full of windage (either moa or revolutions) and then hold off inside the X/10/9 ring, the size of the clicks doesn't matter a whole lot to me. With 10 moa per revolution, it used to be a lot easier to not get 'lost' as to which revolution I was on with a NXS than a BR... but with the new 0-5-0 windage turrets I'm not so sure.

My scopes normally stay on 42x whenever possible. There are times, however, when I'm forced to dial down a bit. Going over ~34-36x on an overcast day is like someone just dimmed the lights, and if the mirage is really, really bad to where I cannot make out anything at all, I may back off to where I can at least center the dot in the big fuzzy black ball.

Most, if not all, of the USA F/TR team is using NF 12-42x NXS scopes so as to have the same adjustments for the sake of making the wind coaches life easier. That way 'come right three clicks' is the same regardless of who is shooting. Not a consideration for most folks, I realize.
Reply with quote  #22 
i see your point the nxs is easyer to use . what other scopes do the 1k shooters use ?
Reply with quote  #23 
For me, the key to the NXS(this is what I own), is the side focus..It allows me to very easily get a clear shape target, then roll back just a little, just enough to barely "fuss" the target , and the mirage jumps out at you.(remember to roll the focus back toward you - otherwise, you'll get a reverse reading on the mirage) Being able to see the mirage is very important to me and side focus is key can do the same with a BR model, but its a pain in the butt having to reach way around to the front of the gun to adjust it..

There have been times that 1/8"clicks would have been nice in order to center the target, but its only 1.25" different per click at 1000 yards...I also like the Ti springs that are used in the NXS model...
The problem with the extreme right wing is that if you go far enough right, you'll end up running into the
Reply with quote  #24 
If you're that worried about mirage, get a separate spotting scope and leave it set up to watch the mirage and stop screwing around w/ the parallax setting on your rifle scope once you have it set for a given yard line. Maybe it's my HP roots showing (where they have the spotting scope set up right alongside so you can look from one to the other w/ minimal head movement), but I find that works *way* better than fiddle-farting around w/ the rifle scope, hoping you a) turned the parallax the right way and b) got back to the right spot afterwards. Throw in a massively wider field of view - which enables you to see 'up' the target line and see what happened to your competitors and give you a heads-up warning that something weird may be happening out there, as well as see other indicators over a wider field of view than just a target or two...

As for 'what other scopes'... once in a while you'll see a well-heeled shooter fielding a March or US Optics, some people still running Leupold 8.5-25x scopes, a few Weaver T24 or T36 scopes (surprisingly good scopes for the money), etc.
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