Reply with quote #1
I just got off the phone with the Remington ammo rep. and received the great news. There is no date of production for the 221 Fireball brass as they have to first meet the demand of the loaded ammo (there money maker) first. And, for those who frequent Midway USA, I'm sure you've noticed the absense of the 17 FB as well, not to mention the loaded ammo.
Thanks Remington for bringing out a product that you're unable or unwilling to support.
Reply with quote #2
Sure would be nice if Lapua would jump into the game!
Seems like there would be (IS) a great demand for quality .221 fireball brass.
Reply with quote #3
It would be nice if anybody would come up with it just to shake up Rem. a bit. I understand that Todd Kindler is still woking on Dakota to hopefully jump into the game.
Reply with quote #4
Originally Posted by
ThadJB "... Thanks Remington for bringing out a product that you're unable or unwilling to support.
It's not that they are unwilling to support it.
The 17 FireBall was more of a success than they ever dreamed, and they never got caught up with demand, and since the fireball uses the 221 case... well, there you go.
Some ammo products like the 308, the 270, '06, 243, and 223, are in constant production with dedicated machines...
... but most of the rifle cartridges are made on a rotational basis - a machine is set up, the anticipated needs for a year or two are run, and the machine is converted over to another cartridge.
I mean, just how much .375 H&H, or 222 Magnum do they need to make at one time - same for ~90% of the catalogue.
When they make the next batch of 221 (ammo and brass), expect it to disappear in a month.
Reply with quote #5
Originally Posted by
ThadJB It would be nice if anybody would come up with it just to shake up Rem. a bit. I understand that Todd Kindler is still woking on Dakota to hopefully jump into the game.
Hmm, it's possible, but I kind'a doubt it. I wonder if Dakota ever paid up for the piles of 223 and Tac 20 brass they had made. Are you sure this isn't some really old news?
Reply with quote #6
"When they make the next batch of 221 (ammo and brass), expect it to disappear in a month."
Exactly my point. That kinda points the finger again at a lack of support. I can't seem to find many other calibers of brass that are having this problem. Remington brought it out (17 fb), it's a good caliber that's enjoying great success but how many serious shooters use factory rounds vs. their own reloads in any caliber?
Reply with quote #7
I think it's pretty typical of all gun manufactures,they bring out a new cartridge,the rifle comes out 4-6 months before you can get ammo for it,empty brass 6 months after that (MABEY).They want to see if the gun will sell before they before they boost up the production on the ammo-brass.when Factory ammo is 30- 50 dollars a box( LIKE NOW )its awfull hard to try a new chambering just my opinion
Reply with quote #8
I'm not trying to hurt anybody's opinion of big green. But honestly, has anyone seen the brass since last August?? We're on the approach of 9 mos without it. The 221 has been around for a long time, it is a wildcatter favorites. The 17 fireball was a tried and proven round long before it was named the 17 FB. I just wish Remington would support their product or another maker would start making it. If that happened, I can just about guarantee that Rem would have the brass on the shelves ASAP just to keep the competition from eating too much of the pie; without the threat of loss Rem can take their time and play it out at their convienence. Strictly my opinion.