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Marksman
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Personally I would love to find an older Rem 40-X in 222 with the 28" factory blued barrel in a walnut stock.


I think that the differences between the 222 and 6mm ppc wouldn't really be noticed for the average target shooter and that the real differences only start to show up at the top level matches.
Cheechako
Reply with quote  #10 
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Originally Posted by Marksman
. . .I think that the differences between the 222 and 6mm ppc wouldn't really be noticed for the average target shooter and that the real differences only start to show up at the top level matches.


Makes me think you've never owned a PPC. Even in the hands of an average shooter there is a definite difference.

I'm not sure what you mean by "top level" matches. The PPC dominates all group Benchrest matches and many of the score matches as well. There is no such thing as different levels of matches. You can go to a local club match of 10 shooters and one or two of them may well be Hall of Fame shooters.

Ray
GerryM
Reply with quote  #11 
Then i wonder why George Kelby won the super shoot matches with his duce. Check out his scores. He was kicking butt
with his duce a few years ago.
The internal case capacityof the 223 is the same as the 222 !/2
The first 222 1/2 was done by both wally hart and Ed shillen with minor differances. The duce was lacking a bit at 200 and the mag and the 222 1/2 both solved the problem.
Enter the 6/47 {mag necked up to 6mm} that was fine for a while until the ppc rolled around.{ picking up velocity}
As i said and any of the shooters that started with a duce will tell you the duce is more accurate.
The sporter class helped kill the duce.
Many shooters wondered why they needed 2 10.5 rifle,s and caused a riff amoung thhe shooters.
When they first started they bought a heavy varmint 222
That was the case of choice and Remington made their famous 40xbr ready to go right from the factory in the 222, 6/47 and 308. Those were the popular benchrest calibers and i forgot to mention the 6mm walker international also.
I've got it right I was there when this went on and heard the arguments.
Cheechako
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Originally Posted by GerryM
Then i wonder why George Kelby won the super shoot matches with his duce. Check out his scores. He was kicking butt with his duce [U]a few years ago[/B].. . .


There's your answer - a few years ago. When was the last time?

Ray
PaperSniper999
Reply with quote  #13 
Any idea if anyone has re-chambered a 223 to 222?

The bore is identical in size I know. Seems like that might make an interesting project, but probably only using a custom barrel. I suspect there are 224 barrels sitting around gathering dust.....or does the 22BR or its variations take them all?

caroby
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Good thread..........

Love the Duce...!

Just in todays IBS/NBRSA shoots the little Duce gives up too much @ 200... I know, been there tried that.

Now steady light conditions and a great rifle / barrel and shooter. The .222 CAN WIN.!

The little Duce is just a sweethart.

cale

Octopus
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Most who have been around and are long in the tooth know how well the 222 tight neck in a good BR rifle will shoot. In calm or light wind @ 100 yards they are super! In these conditions never bet against a 222.

But then comes the 100/200 yd match along with the wind. These are the real match conditions. At the end of most weekends you will have a better agg with the 6 PPC other things being equal.

Now that is the full story.
Hammer
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They'd switch back to the 222 in a heartbeat if it was even a little bit better than the PPC.





Are you sure ?

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