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DanK
Reply with quote  #17 
7stwhunter... I am not really that worried about the primer pockets falling out of the 221 fireball. I am sure there is a fix for that. Better brass.

epmm.... I have also looked at the hornet and others. To me they just don't preform the way I would like. I would at least like to get better than 1/2inch groups at 100yards. I have some Friends that shoot the hornets and they all shoot 1.5 groups at 100 yards.

The 222 is a viable one. It has won many, many matches in the day. I should look at that one also. I wonder witch one retains more accuracy 222,223 I suspect its probably a draw.
DanK
Reply with quote  #18 
LHSMITH... When I was reading some of the treads on the fireball in the varmint forums, they where saying that, with new brass the pockets where to large after firing there first load, and they where not even at a near max load I would have to guess just bad brass from Remington. Because all the guys love there 221 fireball and report constantly 1/2 groups or better. I will go back and try to find out more data on this.
Preacher
Reply with quote  #19 
I shoot a 22br in a 18 inch heavy barrel out of a XP action with no problems velocity wise, and don't loose much to a longer barrel... and it don't make any more noise than a .223 or my 221 fireballs..
Download it with H4895 and get to shooting........
DanK
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Preacher..

Have you had any problems with your primer pockets being a little to large after your 1st firing of new brass? I have been reading some of the varmint forums and guys where complaining of that. I would like to know why this is happening and if there is a cure for it or not.

Never mind, I went back and found the tread again after looking for long time.. They where shooting close to or at max loads and only getting 3 to 4 reloads out of there brass. Since the 221 fireball shoots it best at or near max load, I don't think this would be a viable option for me. Plus I would want to get at least 10 reloads out of my brass.
DanK
Reply with quote  #21 
So taking the loudness factor out of my equation. What would be the most accurate cartridge out of 22br,223,222?
LHSMITH
Reply with quote  #22 
Generally speaking,most rifle chamberings have two or three accuracy nodes (a point where accuracy peaks out) which are several hundred FPS apart. To say that the 221 FB cannot be made accurate at lower velocity levels is not true. With all the powders, primers, and bullets available these days, I'm quite sure there are multiple combinations that will be accurate at moderate pressure levels.
At this point, I can't help with any load data, as I just put together a 221 and only had it to the range once.
There is a lot of bad info on the internet, and you have to rely on multiple sources to weed out the ill-informed.
Keep asking questions. This site along with Benchrest Central are the best sources.
NorCalMikie
Reply with quote  #23 
My .221 brass has been loaded a "bunch" of times and I can't remember ever having a loose primer pocket. A few split necks from being loaded so many times but other than that,all are good.
And accuracy is better than 1/2" groups at 100 yards. Think "bug holes"!
DanK
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Originally Posted by NorCalMikie
My .221 brass has been loaded a "bunch" of times and I can't remember ever having a loose primer pocket. A few split necks from being loaded so many times but other than that,all are good.
And accuracy is better than 1/2" groups at 100 yards. Think "bug holes"!


SHOO WEE!!! now thats what I am talking about
What model are you running the fireball in?
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