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is a 7/8X14 press better or are the Arbor press and dies more accurate , I have only used the std Rock chucker and a Dillon progressive but want to get more accuracy from a 6BR
Thanks in advance
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Although it's possible to full-length size cases with an arbor press (if it has enough power), for most of us, full-length sizing requires a rock-chucker or similar stiff, bench-mounted press with lots of leverage.
Where the Wilson-type inline dies shine is for neck-sizing and bullet seating. My 6BR Wilson Micrometer die is almost perfectly fitted to my sized cases and it has great "feel" for seating bullets. I find the base to ogive measurement of loaded rounds is more consistent with the hand dies. Also run-out is slightly less.
I also like the convenience of moving my loading tray to a different part of the bench and doing the bullet-seating task carefully and slowly from a seated position, watching the dial on my K&M (which has an optional bullet seating force gauge).
Bottom line--both kinds of dies can create excellent ammo. But most guys I know who seat bullets with Wilsons prefer them over screw-in dies.
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Most Benchrest (short range) shooters use a threaded die to size, and an arbor press type seater. The very best of the latter are custom reamed with the same reamer that the rifle was chambered with. Another advantage of the arbor press for seating is that differences in neck tension may more easily be detected by feel as bullets are seated, or one may buy a couple of brands of arbor presses that come with indicators that are designed to measure relative seating force. As far as threaded FL dies go, there are several options, including custom dies that are closely fit to the rifle's chamber. Of these Harrell's are the most popular. They require sending in fired brass, and cost about $75, an excellent value. Many times I have talked to shooters that want better accuracy, but they don't want to change much about what they are doing to get it. Generally it doesn't work that way.
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Many times I have talked to shooters that want better accuracy, but they don't want to change much about what they are doing to get it. Generally it doesn't work that way.
This is so very true. I belong to a club that has over 2000 members. Of the guys that use the rifle range, there are probably less than a hundred that come consistently. Most only come to sight in their deer rifle the weekend before the season starts. Of those "shooters", I'd guess that 90-95% don't even know what bushing dies and inline seaters are. I shoot quite a bit and reload at the range most of the time. Most of the shooters that pass by my set-up have no clue what they are looking at and ask lots of questions. I try to explain things as best I can but most of them end up with a bewildered look on their face and say stuff like "My RCBS or Lee dies are just great and I can't shoot that well anyway". After all, they have a 7mm Mag at home that shoots 3/8" groups all day long You can only shoot as well as your'e equipment will allow. Not even Tony Boyer can win if his ammo aint straight. Both the Moderator and BoydAllen gave you good advice.