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murf45
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I just recieved a 6.5 284 and I've got a load thats supposed to work for it, and the smith said shot very well out of it. Of about 20 3 shot groups in just about every group the 1st shot is always the flier, and the next two group very well. The velocities are very consistent. Groups were shot at 100 and 200 yds... Any Ideas of what might be causing this?
archerross
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Could be your hold and/or sight picture. My 6.5-284 does not shoot well "free recoil", rather it likes to be held firm. It is an 11.75 lb heavy sporter. Make sure your hold is consistent. I know I struggle with that some days.
murf45
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I have a 6.5-20x50 mrk4 on it and always adjust for parallox. I like to think I hold pretty firm, but I'll give it a shot and see what happens..
Johnboy
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hello,I have always shot a 5 shot group.It cold also be that the rifel needs to have one down the tube first,then start grouping.I'm like an old friend told me one time.He said why play with 3 when the rifel or shotter may change.So we have always put 5 down the tube.I've seen some rifels that need that first one down the tube then the rest are a good group.In fact my preacher has a 243 that I told him to just shot it at a tree stump and then go hunting for the next four shots or four deer.sorry that I can not really tell you what to do.I'm just an old boy that loves to shot.the only other thing that comes to mind is that it may be a rough bore.but I would think that wouldn't be your case with a built rifel.hope this helps,or gives you an idea on what to do.but someone on this site can most likely help,because they have helped me a great deal.
Johnboy
murf45
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I appreciate all the replies, and am willing to try anything. I've shot it off a rest and left it for about 15-20 min and let it cool down. I came back shot another group and it shot the same first shot flier. I'll try the 5 shot group and see if it groups much better that way. It has a 30 in broughton barrel on it. It has about 170 rounds down the barrel.... I would also like to add that we shoot a sendero 300 win mag off the same rest and it shoots touchers every time.
BigBamBoo
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OK. First are you using the load data that the gent who built the rifle?
By this I mean you have not tried working up you own loads for it?

Some folks idea of a good shooting rifle and your idea could be two different things...as it sounds,this is true.

I would try and work your own load up for it. There are so many variables that could effect the load your trying now. Where the other gent lives is totally different weather,elevation,etc. and this can have a major influence on reloading.

Good luck,Stan
murf45
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Ya I'm using his loads. He also sent about 50 pieces of formed brass he had been using and I've played around with the load. The only thing I changed was the bullet from a 142gr SMK to a Berger 140 gr VLD Hunting bullet. The best I could shoot is 1.44" at 200 yds w/ a 3 shot group. In my standards thats not very good especially when the smith shot that at 600 yds
walkertexasranger
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Originally Posted by murf45
Ya I'm using his loads. He also sent about 50 pieces of formed brass he had been using and I've played around with the load. The only thing I changed was the bullet from a 142gr SMK to a Berger 140 gr VLD Hunting bullet. The best I could shoot is 1.44" at 200 yds w/ a 3 shot group. In my standards thats not very good especially when the smith shot that at 600 yds


There is a huge difference between a Sierra 142 and a Berger 140 VLD. You will need to work up an entirely new load for the Berger, and you should pay very close attention to the seating depth as VLDs are sensitive to this...
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