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ms6852
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Hey guys as I posted earlier I purchased a 513T remington with the redfield peep sights. And she is truly accurate. I found that my shot groups were alot tighter than some of the guys using a scope were at 100 yds. My question is two fold. Will it be possible to shoot 200 yds with this rifle? And, if it is so if I would decide to buy a scope what would you recommend? I notice that it is tapped for a scope but they are spaced very far apart.
Comments would be appreciated. I doubt that I will replace the peep sights, I do really like them, but was curious as to the type of scope placed on this rifles.
Travelor
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First addressing the 200 yard issue. You will just have to try it and see. The reason I say this is that some guns shoot great at 100 yards and then just fall apart at 200 yards. Also, when you start shooting at 200 yards, the ammo becomes a very large part of the results. Normally, better ammo makes for better 200 yard results.

I am the Match Director for our Club's 200 yard rim fire prone match. What I have seen is that guns with a twist rate of 16"-17" and higher end Eley ammo prevail.

Concerning sights. My 513T's have the barrels drilled and tapped for the older long target scopes such as Lyman and Unertl. I would hate to see a good shooting 513T get drilled and tapped in the action. My advise would be to check the Forums and GunBroker for one and be sure to remember that you will need special bases to mount the scope to the barrel. (You should be able to get these through Champion's Choice.)

Also, it takes about 27 MOA of elevation change from a 50 yard zero with standard velocity ammo to be zero'd for 200 yards.

Shooting at 200 yards with a 22 is a real intersting and rewarding experience. Go for it!
ms6852
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I will not tap or drill the receiver. Are any of your shooters shooting 200 yds using just the peep sights or do they all use scopes? As it is at 100 yds I am hitting bullseye about 15 out of 25 times but that is probably me due to my eyes. I am using the cheapest ammo at the moment from remington but will move up as soon as I get better on my technique as well. I will check champion out for the unertyl and lyman scopes. Thanks for the info.
spclark
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200 yard rimfire around here is referred to as mini-Palma shooting practice.

What you learn by participating is great experience when you get to 1000 yards with a Palma rifle (155 grain .308, iron sights only) particularly regarding reading the wind.
ms6852
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Originally Posted by spclark
200 yard rimfire around here is referred to as mini-Palma shooting practice.

What you learn by participating is great experience when you get to 1000 yards with a Palma rifle (155 grain .308, iron sights only) particularly regarding reading the wind.


I will stick to the iron sights shooting rim fire is alot more exciting and complicated than I had ever expected.
Travelor
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We have two iron sight shooters, one shooting a military training rifle and one shooting micrometer target sights. The military gun is doing rather poorly and the target shooter (currently the State Smallbore Champion) is doing quite well.

George
LarryR53
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We just had our 200 yd rimfire match and about half the shooters (15-20) used iron sights. Many of them outshot the scope shooters. Some of these guys can SHOOT. They also have learned to read the wind which is huge in 200 yd rimfire. Go for it, its really fun.
Austin
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Just for kicks,a few years ago i shot a rockchuck at 265yds with my dads old Sears and Roebuck mod.41 single shot with an old 4x15mm Bushnell Sportview scope.He was at the bottom of that little scope.It is still my best shot on a varmint with a short or long shot.
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