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schughes
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I have a Savage 12 LPV in 22-250. After bedding the rifle I gets groups in the 0.5-0.6" under a T-36 scope. Will rebarreling with a custom barrel like a Shillen offer better groups? Also, does anyone have experience yet with the 3 pillar "benchrest" platform? Does it offer real potential versus the two pillar when bedded?
pdog06
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Do you have a VLP or a LRPV? I think you either mis-ordered the letters or left a letter out. Just wanted to make clear what you have now.

The 2 pillar system is just as good with a good bedding job as the 3 pillar action. I've heard of some guys even leaving the middle screw out. I have both and can shoot just as good with one than the other. The barrel, shooter, load developement, and shooting equipment are much greater factors than the action itself.

I dont think the 3 screw action aids in helping the gun to be more accurate at all, but it is a little thicker and is probably more stiff than the 2 pillar action.

IMO your rifle should shoot better than .5-.6(assuming you're talking 100yd groups). Yes, a aftermarket barrel should help some, and you'll really see a difference in how much easier it cleans up. World of difference there.

What kinda trigger you got on it? I would suggest a SSS or a Rifle-Basix SAV2 trigger as they are so much nicer than any factory trigger.
schughes
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You are correct, transposed. It is a low profile varmint, blind magazine, laminated stock.
pdog06
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I have the same rifle with a 12 twist barrel. The come with a 12Twist or a 9Twist barrel.

Some of those stocks have the pillars a little recessed in the stock, meaning they arent flush in the action well and the action will sit on the wood instead of tightening up against the pillars. I had to bed mine when I got it for that reason.

If you havent already, I would bed the action and recoil lug(making sure to leave the barrel and rear tang area free-floated) and shoot it some more.

You may find it helps out some.
signatures
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1:9 twist. Originally the high points of the contoured front pillar extended above the wood. Unfortunately the contours on the pillars do not match the contour of the action and the pillars are harder. With tightening and shooting the points of the pillars perceptually indented the action enough to let the bottom of the action contact the bottom of the action channel. It actually burnished the wood slightly. Groups tightened up from a 180 round weighted average of 0.710" to what appears to be a 60 round weighted average of 0.55-6". I did not check the tang but suspect that it does touch at the outside edges. I will inlet that a bit and see what happens.

sleepygator
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You definitely have a bedding problem. Take a look at the link below from 6mmBR.com. It is an excellent article on stress-free bedding that is not difficult to do and made my 6BR 12F sing.

http://www.6mmbr.com/pillarbedding.html
schughes
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My bedding problem turned out to be more of a front rest problem. I purchased a Bald Eagle front rest with appropriate bags and after learning how to correct "cockpit" problems at the bench my groups tightened up considerably. Though not always below the 3's I do have a 0.224" x 5 @ 100 and a 0.188" x 5 @ 100. Nothing different on the gun. Same optics and an old recipe that used to shoot in the 5's with an occassional 4's. Most are now in the 3's and 4's but I have convinced myself that the problem now is at the butt of the gun.

I have heard others tell of the importance of a good rest but only after shooting one did I believe what they were saying.
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